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The Great Debate (80's Cartoon Archetype Challenge)

by Capital "W" Writer (LoA's Geekus Awesomeus)

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Oops! I got so distracted writing my last Eplet (I’m trying to get that to be the official term for ficlets involving 20 or more parts ;) ), that I missed putting in my 200th ficlet challenge! I’m currently at 236 (including 3 challenges, but not including this one).

So, here we go.

In keeping with my complete and utter addiction to anything 80’s, I want to see what you all can come up with when given the following task: Write a philosophical debate between 2-3 archetype characters from 80’s cartoons. All archetypes must be from different cartoons. (ie A philosophical debate between a transformable robot, a muscle-bound magical prince, and a fruit flavoured pixie child.)

On your marks!

Get set!

(Wait for it…)

GO!

Changed it to general archetypes rather than specific character to avoid any potential legal hassles.

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The Great Debate (80's Cartoon Archetype Challenge)
SKermitgorf
Posted 6 months ago

funny concept. congrats on 200.
LoA
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Robotech_Master
Posted 6 months ago

Though I hate to say it, this challenge would technically be against the charter of the site. You’re not supposed to use trademarked characters, since that would open Ficlets to possible legal action.
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Ana Cristina
Posted 6 months ago

I got dibs on the philosophical debate between Gargamel and Father Smurf. I’m loving the 80’s infused challenges lately!
LoA
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Ana Cristina
Posted 6 months ago

Under copyright law, it’s allowed if it’s clearly a satire, by the way…
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Capital "W" Writer (LoA's Geekus Awesomeus)
Posted 6 months ago

Good point, Robotech_Master. But I believe that this would fall under Fair Use, if my understanding of that policy is correct. If not, my apologies, and Ficlets and remove this at their leisure.
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Blusparrow
Posted 6 months ago

I don’t see any copywright problems. If it is a satire, I don’t see the problem. Hey Kev, If you read this please let us know. I am still entering this though. No fair Ana, I wanted to do Father Smurf. No problem, I just do some research on 80s cartoons and make a awesome ficlet!
LoA
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Capital "W" Writer (LoA's Geekus Awesomeus)
Posted 6 months ago

Agreed. If I may, could I ask that people hold off on posting stories for this challenge, please. Just until we hear from Kev as to whether or not this is okay. Like I said, I don’t see a problem, as I believe this falls under Fair Use. But, at the same time, I don’t want to cause any problems for my favourite site. If necessary, I do have a backup challenge in mind.
Thanks, all!
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Robotech_Master
Posted 6 months ago

I’m not a lawyer, this isn’t legal advice, yatta yatta, but:

The thing about Fair Use is that it’s not actually a “right,” though people say it is. It’s a “defense.”

Fair Use doesn’t mean you can’t be sued.

It means if you are sued, you can say, “It’s Fair Use” and then the judge gets to decide whether it is or not, and if it is you’re off the hook. (But you’ve still had to spend money and time on getting lawyered up.)
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Robotech_Master
Posted 6 months ago

To be honest, I doubt anyone would care legally one way or the other about this particular contest. But, IMO , it might set a bad precedent.

I hate to rain on your parade, as I could have a lot of fun writing a challenge post myself. But I’d rather be safe than sorry.
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Robotech_Master
Posted 6 months ago

(Though, technically, even if someone did get upset, I think that the “Fair Harbor” provision of the DMCA would protect them from a suit as long as they took the stuff down if someone complained. But again, I am not a lawyer, etc.)
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Capital "W" Writer (LoA's Geekus Awesomeus)
Posted 6 months ago

I’ve sent a note off to Kevin to get his opinion. If he asks me to change it, I will. I will leave a note here, one way or the other, when I get a response.
Thanks for your patience on this one, folks.
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Capital "W" Writer (LoA's Geekus Awesomeus)
Posted 6 months ago

Got a reply back from Kevin. He suggested that, even though “fair use” should cover it, that it be changed to “80’s cartoon archetypes” instead. I think that works just beautifully, and it still holds with the spirit of the challenge.
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THX 0477
Posted 6 months ago

Controversy or no, I’ve thrown my hat in the ring. It wound up a bit awkward, cause I tried to keep it vague who the discussants are. But it was fun to imagine. Fun challenge.
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SKermitgorf
Posted 6 months ago

great challenge and some people.. no names.. are such a buzz kill and take things waaaaaaay to seriously.
LoA

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The Great Debate (80's Cartoon Archetype Challenge)

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